Lastly, Dear Zachary was screened in Ottawa on March 11, 2009 for various members of Parliament and their staff; as a result, a small but committed group of Parliamentarians are now drafting a bill based on the issues raised in the film. David Bagby's book, Dance With the Devil, is a good read. HOUSE OF COMMONS UNANIMOUSLY PASSES BILL C-464. Dear Zachary has been acquired for theatrical release and DVD distribution by the newly formed Oscilloscope Pictures, and will be released in New York on October 31st, and in Los Angeles and Chicago on November 7th. I mean, she. This abridged version was prepared personally by Kurt Kuenne in order to comply with CBC Newsworld's time constraints but preserve the film's impact while reaching a wider audience in Canada. (Shirley and Zachary at birthday party; birthday party), KATE: He didn't want to open presents, you know, he wanted to get, down. There won't be any question about, whether she can hurt him. thoughts, his wife sees something that rocks her to the core. His father says, I kissed him and held him. Thought, you know, `Who would want to kill him?'. (Canadian flags; Newfoundland; lake and coast; man in coat; photos of Shirley, and Zachary; Kate, David and Zachary; Shirley, Kate and Zachary; Supreme Court, building; photos of David, Kate, Zachary and Shirley), Mr. BAGBY: Dealing with Turner was like, I don't know, walking around with. On December 15, 2010, Governor General David Johnston gave Royal Assent to Bill C-464: An Act To Amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody), making it law in Canada. Cpl. But you will come away believing in people. And now it's just. In the end, she died, but love did not. Well, you dont have to look far, said Dr. T. Clark Simpson, who worked with Bagby. I said, `Andrew,' I said, `be serious. Mr. SHEARS: Yeah, I guess it did at the time, but I still didn't have, MORRISON: How difficult must it have been to ingratiate, themselves with their son's suspected killer? Amending Canada's bail code was my goal in releasing "Dear Zachary" publicly; it is my pleasure to announce that goal is now a reality. Kate & David Bagby will now be called as witnesses before the committee, the bill will be revised and strengthened, and eventually brought back into the House and Senate for a vote. They should have been given custody of Zachary to begin with. On a shelf in the California home of David and Kate Bagby, sitting inconspicuously among some lovely china, are two urns. Its not the sort of true crime that leaves you wanting more. (Photo of David and Kate; airplane; lake and coast), MORRISON: But here's the thing. I knew, exactly what my son looked at before he died. It was made to tell a story and to capture forever the life of one man and the many people he touched. MORRISON: Police got Shirley Turner on the phone back in Iowa. She just dropped to the floor and laid down, and, I went down after her. I had two sisters already, so a brother, because now I'd have somebody that I can teach about hockey and, (Shears and Zachary; photo of Shears and Zachary). USA | Canada | UK, Original poster artwork by Evan B. Harris, Proceeds from this film benefit the Dr. Bagby Scholarship and the Dr. Andrew Bagby and son Zachary Bursary, Watch this short film to see the quest to complete Dear Zachary and amend Canadian bail law. They still have friends in the province, people Kate said they wouldnt have survived without. Mr. BAGBY: She told the court she was afraid we would harm the baby. Mr. BAGBY: Without those cell phone records, they couldn't formally charge. It also recently won Best Documentary at the Orlando Film Festival and the Audience Award at the St. Louis International Film Festival. Mr. KUENNE: I think he was a little scared of me when I first came up. David Bagby, left, and Kate Bagby, right, celebrate with their son Andrew Bagby at his graduation from medical school at Memorial University of Newfoundland in June 2000. The Bagbys were compelled to ensure what happened to their son and grandson never happens again. What kind of headfuck must that be? IE 11 is not supported. It then played SXSW in Austin, Texas, where it left audiences stunned and in tears. "In a tragic ending, we bring new beginnings with bail reform so that no other family will have to go through the devastation that Kate and David have gone through," Andrews said. MORRISON: Ah, but there was a lot to say about Andrew. Someone found a car that didn't belong. In 2006, the press was there again to cover the issuance of a report on the death of, (Newspaper article; David on TV show being interviewed; Confederation, Unidentified Reporter: (Newscast) The government has received a scathing. doesn't take much to pull a trigger, does it? Its heartbreaking, said Kate, who recalls last seeing Zachary the evening before he was killed. He was such a good baby. Family and friends go to extraordinary lengths to honor a legacy of a young man whose trust led to tragedy. He was like, `Eh, mm.' Its hard to imagine a well-crafted rendition being as powerful.). Amazon | B&N Mr. BAGBY: He's now engaged to this lovely girl, and he's going to go to med school. And this is where director Kurt Kuenne is really smart. Understood? This documentary starts out like a love letter. MORRISON: But would that somebody turn out to be a blessing or a curse? It will make you question your faith in the world. There was plenty of turmoil in the industry, but many shows continued to nourish, illuminate, and delight. Also foreshadowing is how long it takes Andrews parents, Kate and David, to wade through various levels of bureaucracy to confirm his death. MORRISON: Andrew's best friend, filmmaker Kurt Kuenne, suddenly, just knew what he had begun as a small film to memorialize his old friend. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) His parents don't even know, do they? Shirley Turner, awaiting, extradition for murder, was out of prison on bail. They had to be nice to Turner, to keep her mellow, and not fight with her. This film will be one of the best you're likely to see this year." Its been more than 10 years since the Bagbys have been back to Newfoundland and Labrador. Why would she say that if he wasn't? The memory of that visit is of a crying Zachary being taken away from them. You were done. On Monday, March 22, 2010, the House of Commons in Ottawa unanimously passed Bill C-464 - An Act to Amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody). GARDNER: (Audio recording) I'm not going to kid you, Doctor. And if that picture never reveals itself, it feels like a letdown, not a tragedy. Unidentified Woman #10: (Kate holding Zachary) Zachary. All rights reserved, Click here for information on becoming a member. The 10th Anniversary Blu-Ray and DVD are also available from other retailers listed below, and the digital edition is now available for purchase or rent on iTunes, Amazon Prime Video, and Google Play. Cpl. And that's when she said, `He loves you, more than me. Mommy loves you. It would be kind of upsetting, I guess, to let your son spend time. Even during his stilted summaries of events, you can sometimes hear Kuenne choking up. How else do you represent almost virtually the same crime happening back to back despite the hindsight in between? It's. MORRISON: When you did find out that she was pregnant, what was your thought? And in that time, the Canadian justice system does nothing. Laws governing the, rights of defendants are fairly strong in this country, but there's something, about Newfoundlanders in particular which may have contributed to the judge's, decision to grant bail. And you just bought the gun, right? It was all incorrect from the beginning, that all this, innocence and everything she's told you was a lie. April 14, 2009: We'll keep this website updated as to their progress when there is news. We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again, said David. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. And she followed Andrew to St. John's.. "There, is no indication of a psychological disorder that would give concern about, potential harm to the public generally as her crime, while violent, was, specific in nature." You will laugh, you will smile, you will cry, and you might even want to stand up and shout at the screen. They began a drawn-out court battle to protect their grandson from the woman who had almost certainly murdered their son. Awaiting extradition, Turner drowned 13-month-old Zachary and took her own life as well. Was it a tight bond? did. Turner, the daughter of a U.S. serviceman and a woman from St. Anthony, met Andrew while they were attending medical school at Memorial University in St. Johns. David Bagby wrote Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss, a best-seller in Canada in 2007, about his family's ordeal. `You gave me a lovely son, and now it's over.'. Typically, we meet the victim not as a person but as a dismantled puzzle to be put back together by the canny viewer, who is likewise appealed to not as a person hearing about a human catastrophe but as an analytical machine capable of sorting and weighing the relevant facts. Do you understand? It opens with a gushing montage of the friends of a doctor named Andrew Bagby, none of whom have one real bad word about him. But he was moved to honor his friend the best way he knew how, by making a film. Because this is foreshadowing. I mean, the best man is really the groom. There won't be any question about whether she can hurt, MORRISON: Coming up, as David Bagby wrestles with these terrible. kind of panic sets in, I guess. It's said there's nothing worse than the death of your child, and this film drives that point home harder and with the utmost care and precision." Simpson advised his friend to call the cops and to not under any circumstances meet Shirley Jane Turner alone. You dont leave it behind. Shirley, held his birthday party at McDonald's. Wow." A review of Turner's and Zachary's deaths, released in 2006 by Winnipeg-based coroner Peter Markesteyn, concluded the provinces social services system failed Zachary and his death could have been prevented. (Photo of Shirley; Zachary; photo of Shears and Zachary), Mr. SHEARS: There was a conversation one time she had with me and Erica, in, regards to if something ever happened to her and she had to go to jail or. He seems to be talking about the unfathomable grief Shirley Jane Turner left behind. They told us that they'd found the body. (Sea at night; photo of Shirley and Zachary; autopsy report; photo of man; photo of Shirley and Zachary; Zachary sleeping; David and Kate), Mr. BAGBY: Kate just quit. And she followed Andrew to St. John's. MORRISON: And ultimately she sent him away, with no forewarning. The bill, if passed into law later this year, would justify detention in custody for those accused of a serious crime who are a potential danger to their own children under the age of 18. CONTRIBUTED BY DAVID AND KATE BAGBY Sixteen years have passed but for the Bagbys the story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. The couple was also involved in a support group for parents of murdered children and sat through three murder trials to try and help other surviving parents deal with their incredible grief. Or was this her, way of demanding that they suspend their critical faculties and declare their, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I don't know what to give Zachary. Mr. KUENNE: He warmed up to me as the--as the week wore on, MORRISON: But the Bagbys were especially anxious. She would never go away. Both screenings were sold out and received sustained standing ovations, an exceptionally rare event in the 14 year history of Slamdance. She was, pregnant, and the baby was Andrew's. This film was no longer a letter to you, Unidentified Man #23: Well, everybody always says, well, what. Blu-ray: MORRISON: The ammunition used to kill Andrew was CCI .22 caliber bullets. He was the whole world to them. For one thing, Shirley, required the Bagbys to bring Zachary to visit her once a week in jail. Kurt Kuennes 2008 documentary, Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father, deserves a second look, especially in light of the recent popularity of true-crime programs like Serial and Making a Murderer., Photograph courtesy Oscilloscope Pictures / Everett. We couldnt actually believe shed (harm Zachary), but we consciously feared she could do that, he said. Andrew was found dead Nov. 5, 2001 in a state park just outside Latrobe, PA, where he was a resident in the local hospitals family medicine programme. The other, their grandson, Zachary Turner. I had a son I used, (Photo of young Kate; photo of Kate and David; photo of Kate and Andrew), KATE: And then suddenly you're in the pits, and then you have to learn that, MORRISON: Two weeks after Zachary's murder, the press covered a, Mr. BAGBY: (Press conference) We believe that the legal system helped her to, MORRISON: Charging the child protection authorities dropped the, ball, and that a disastrous bail system allowed a probable first-degree, (Zachary; court document; Shirley and Andrew). Zachary, I love you, baby. Then, upon. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I do have a complaint, finally. KATE: (To Zachary) Kurt knew your daddy when he was a little boy. Very, very serious. They hadn't been identified, but it's obvious who they, MORRISON: He was right. We had to pack up Zachary, Mr. BAGBY: We just climbed right back upstairs and went to bed and melted. Yeah, I mean, I can watch that for sure. Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Walmart, DIGITAL
(Kate and Zachary; judge in court; Shirley being escorted from court), Mr. KUENNE: I don't know. Mr. KUENNE: I vowed to collect every memory for you before they, MORRISON: As for Andrew's parents, David and Kate, they were, (Graduation photo of Andrew, Kate and David; Shirley with child). Turner killed herself and Zachary before she could be tried for murder. Gruesome details, abstruse discoveries, and personal secrets are examined with a seemingly cold and impartial eye in the light of the promise that, if seen rightly, they can yield up a picture of the truth. KATE: People thought she was delicate, you know, and looked KATE: She couldn't kill. Mr. SIMPSON: I said, `Do not meet her in private.' Unidentified Man #22: We will develop policy specific to children. Welcome back toCold Comforts, a recurring column in which Soraya Roberts writes about the grim, harrowing, and downright bizarre movies and television shows that she nevertheless cant stop watching, over and over again. I don't know how else to say it except they are grown-ups: they are funny, but serious; playful, but organized. When Kuenne narrates the particulars of the crime, the evidence, or the legal proceedings, his voiceover shifts to a stylized, rapid-fire clip, making it easy for the audience to miss key details. He had returned to the US and had discovered a passion for family practice, where his love for people--and theirs for him--seemed as natural, as comfortable as the quiet town in Pennsylvania in which he'd chosen to live. I dont know how else to say it except they are grown-ups: they are funny, but serious; playful, but organized. Imagine being the parents of a man who was killed and then having to ingratiate yourself to the killer in order to keep your grandchild safe. Coverage from the 2023 Canada Winter Games, VIDEO: Your daily elite-sports highlight package, Making Canada Better: Atlantic Canadians striving for change, 2023 SaltWire Network. Through a complicated series of delayed hearings and granted bails, Turner remained free for many months while the decision regarding her extradition was in process. That one comes back a lot. "We had to do something.. The Hornet was just back from patrolling . ', MORRISON: When Dr. Andrew Bagby's bullet-riddled corpse was, found in a Pennsylvania state park in November 2001, his devastated parents. MORRISON: Do you find yourself going back and playing that back in your mind? Shirley and Zachary, then 13 months old, had been staying with the couple. But of course I didn't. There is a dark pull in watching the Bagby case travel to unanticipated depths, but there are no thrills. Schultz quotes the brother of Hae Min Lee, the victim of the murder at the center of the first season of Serial, responding, on Reddit, to the surge of interest in the case: I wont be answering any questions because . MORRISON: It was almost two years after Andrew Bagby's murder, when Shirley Turner's eldest son T.J. drove home to his girlfriend after an. And we, would have agreed to anything. He said, `The psychotic bitch. "Go into this cold and be prepared for a life-changing experience. Help contribute to IMDb. Dear Zachary has been announced as the first film to launch the newly formed MSNBC Films division of MSNBC. An unusually personal and powerful story of a murder, it may offer something of a counterweight to the forces of bias and prurience that often pull the genre off-track. See rank. Slamdance Film Festival book signing! Please check back for updates as the bill makes its way through the Senate in the coming weeks -- and if you are a Canadian Citizen, please write your Senator to voice your support of C-464 during this crucial time. David and Kate Bagby channeled their grief & anguish into changing some Canadian laws. whose parents are charged with a violent crime. Both screenings received sustained standing ovations, and the Toronto audience applauded yet again when director Kurt Kuenne announced that he had sent letters to every member of Parliament requesting the opportunity to screen the film for them. And in that way this tragedy remains hers and hers alone. decision. Oh, my God. A few weeks after, Zachary's birthday party, the Bagbys and Shirley took the toddler swimming, an, activity he usually enjoyed. Dear Zachary is now available on DVD! What do you want it Mr. BAGBY: Very seriously. MORRISON: Shirley, meanwhile, seemed to be preparing for her, extradition, and perhaps she was looking for a way to exclude the Bagbys from. I'm absolutely sure. Click here for ticket information! The Bagbys have done their best to resume life in California. MORRISON: What thought or feeling did that give you? What if she is backed in a. corner? get a chance to have some of Andrew again. The album includes "Andrew", the 8 minute concert work Kurt wrote and recorded in Andrew's memory in 2002. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) It's either in my closet or my bedroom. David remembers uttering, "It's really him," and recalls how the two cried over the body, tears falling on to Andrew's face. Said, `Oh, no, I really can't.'. MORRISON: The rage was tempered with a yearning to know just why Andrew had been assassinated. Mr. BAGBY: By this time we're pretty damn sure she's complete. They are simply good people. 7:30 I'll be at your house.'. (Newfoundland; Shears driving; photo of Shirley and Zachary; water at night; Mr. SHEARS: She said Zachary was being fussy and that just driving him, around would calm him down.
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